🔴 ICE COLD BETRAYAL: Candace Owens VS Jordan Peterson | 369

by 04.28.2025

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0:00 – Introduction and Show Overview
PSA Sage kicks off the show, previewing discussions on Candace Owens’ critique of Jordan Peterson and her arguments echoing the “woke left.”

0:36 – Candace Owens vs. Jordan Peterson
Exploring Candace Owens’ attack on Jordan Peterson, focusing on his messy room from a 2016/2017 interview, and introducing Tom Nichols’ postmodernism video.

1:46 – Jordan Peterson’s Decline and Social Media Presence
The hosts discuss Peterson’s fall into “cringe” territory, including controversial X posts, and Owens’ potential attempt to strike their channel.

3:46 – Apple Cider Gate and Peterson’s Religious Ambiguity
Delving into “Apple Cider Gate” from Peterson’s Joe Rogan appearance and Owens’ critique of his unclear Christian stance, possibly motivated by his prior criticism.

5:56 – Candace Owens’ Conspiracy Theories
Examining Owens’ rejection of evolution, dinosaurs, and space, including her claim that NASA is a satanic conspiracy, and her potential mega-church future.

9:56 – Peterson’s Debate with Sam Harris and Owens’ Hit Piece
Analyzing a clip where Peterson allegedly “loses it” in a 2018 Sam Harris debate, with hosts calling Owens’ video a hit piece using out-of-context clips.

14:06 – Peterson’s Religious Beliefs and Owens’ Hypocrisy
Further discussion on Peterson’s vague religious stance, a clip affirming Jesus as God, and Owens’ failure to embody Christian values like turning the other cheek.

18:06 – Apple Cider Incident and Owens’ Conspiracy Contradictions
Breaking down Peterson’s apple cider reaction, supported by sulfite allergy evidence, and mocking Owens’ dismissal while she embraces other conspiracies.

28:46 – Candace Owens’ Space Conspiracy and Jack Parsons
Debunking Owens’ claim that Jack Parsons created the Apollo program, noting his death before NASA’s founding, and diving into his occult practices with L. Ron Hubbard.

38:16 – Parsons’ Occult Life and Hubbard’s Scams
Recounting Parsons’ rocket fuel work, bizarre rituals, and Hubbard’s scams, culminating in Parsons’ explosive death and the absurdity of linking him to NASA.

59:41 – Candace Owens and the “Christ is King” Controversy
Analyzing Owens’ feud with Peterson over “Christ is King,” sparked by his “pharisaical pretender” tweet, and her refusal to clarify the phrase’s spiritual vs. theocratic meaning.

1:17:36 – Peterson’s Psychopath Critique and Owens’ Response
Examining Peterson’s claim that influencers like Owens manipulate religious phrases, and her counter-accusation of Peterson aligning with Jewish-led reports labeling “Christ is King” extremist.

1:44:06 – Tom Nichols’ Postmodernism Video Introduction
Transitioning to Nichols’ “Who Killed Postmodernism?” video, criticizing its music and conflation of postmodern art and philosophy.

2:12:30 – Nichols’ Postmodernism Critique and Conservative Panic
Dissecting Nichols’ portrayal of Peterson, Gad Saad, and others in a “postmodern panic,” challenging his dismissal of Stephen Hicks and lack of clear definitions.

3:08:16 – Postmodernism’s Origins and Nichols’ Missteps
Discussing Nichols’ attribution of postmodernism’s rise to post-WWII skepticism, critiquing his reliance on Marxist scholars and conflation of art and ideology.

4:06:01 – Metamodernism and Political Movements
Nichols introduces “metamodernism,” oscillating between modernist sincerity and postmodern irony, with hosts questioning its relevance to Trump and Musk’s actions.

5:18:02 – Critique of Nichols’ Conclusions and Immigration Debate
Dismissing Nichols’ claim that liberal inaction killed postmodernism, followed by a debate on immigration, contrasting wokeness-driven permissiveness with electoral conspiracy theories.

6:26:01 – Wrap-Up and Final Thoughts
Mocking Nichols’ video as aesthetically driven propaganda, criticizing his comedy show, and reflecting on the emotional vs. substantive nature of political discourse.

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